16th manchester regiment

Lancashire Fusiliers who died 17/07/1918 POZNAN OLD GARRISON CEMETERY Poland ' No personal details are collected. 0-9 1st East Lancashire Field Company, Royal Engineers 1st Lancashire Light Horse Volunteers 21 January 1920 posted to 1st Battalion as Acting Corporal. else { document.write(fontstart+"No major events today"+fontend); } In memory of Frank, Harry, Thomas, William, Gabriel and James, and all other members of my family who experienced the terrible Great War. Manchester Pals: 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th, 21st, 22nd & 23rd Battalions of the Manchester Regiment : a History of the Two Manchester Brigades. Manchester Regiment 23 April 1920 Awarded a King's Certificate (No.63/3438). dailyinfo[30]=' SD/3772 Lance Corporal John Edward GOLDSMITH 13th Bn. Before that it had been 17th (Reserve) Battalion of the Cheshire Regiment. James married Maggie McLean at St. Thomas, Ardwick on 26th June 1918 when he was living at 42 Brunswick Street. PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE COMMENTING. Please note that some sources will require payment to view. Surviving service papers show the numbers originally issued to 16th Battalion men which are crossed out and the new number in the 6*** range overwritten. It had duty at Greensburg, North Carolina until July. Moved to billets in Eastbourne in November and returned to Seaford in March 1915. Three Shot at Dawn; Category : Military units and formations in Manchester Community: Battle of Manchester Hill - 16th Battalion Manchester 2526 (Incomplete) Thanks to everyone who has supported us over this time. once again many thanks. Royal Flying Corps who died 12/07/1917 BAILLEUL COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION, NORD France ' It served on the Western Front until leaving France on 10 December 1915, whereupon it moved to Mesopotamia, landing at Basra on 8 January 1916. From the website Epsom and Ewell History, with my thanks. Moved to Prees Heath in November, went on to Southport next month and in May 1916 on to Altcar.1 September 1916 : converted into 69th Training Reserve Battalion of 16th Reserve Brigade at Altcar. // Stop Define Variables for days of the month dailyinfo[11]=' 110975 Gunner Alex Glen OSWALD 303rd Siege Bty. Community: The Battle For Manchester Hill St Quentin, March 1918 The MGC reference you quote is the medal reference for the MGC and these are held at The National Archives. Thanks to Mack of The Manchester Regiment Group Forum for helping with some key information and watch this post, but Ive made a mental note not to follow this path too far. 28th BattalionOn 1 January 1917, the 45th Provisional Bn became 28th Manchesters TF. The 17 th Battalion pushed onwards over the infamous Menin Road. I'm afraid the war diary for 16th Manchesters may be of no help. I told to do it or Id shoot himhe said Blame your own government. He refused to bind his foot so I shot him. WW1 French souvenir Alsace Chasseur Alpine 'Blue Devils' . Royal Naval Reserve who died 26/06/1917 PORTSMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL United Kingdom ' James Frederick Bell 6957 - 16th Battalion Manchester Regiment Initially established at Heaton Park but moved in April 1915 to Belton Park, where placed under command of 90th Brigade in 30th Division. You're going to need the RFA Brigade war diary which, I think, is only available at the National Archives. Regards John. Kind regards, Ian Wilsonpreferred e-mail ianwilson99@outlook.com, Thanks for the information, Ian. Moved to Southport in October 1916, going on to Ripon in January 1917, Hunmanby in July 1917 and then Filey in April 1918. 16th Battalion. I have seen some incredibly vivid photographs of dead soldiers in the Western Front. Knocked off his left arm. Moved to Yarmouth in winter and by May 1918 was at Herringfleet. dailyinfo[22]=' Captain Sir John Edward FOWLER Mentioned in Despatches 2nd Bn. However I reflect on the prospect that Im also making the unpalatable nature of warfare more accessible. 16th Manchester Regiment - Soldiers and their units - Great War Forum To be able to visit the location of John's last action would be a huge privilege. Moved to near Rochdale.25 September 1914 : landed at Alexandria in Egypt.6 May 1915 : landed on Gallipoli.26 May 1915 : formation became 127th Brigade, 42nd (East Lancashire) Division.28 December 1915 : evacuated from Gallipoli, landed on Mudros and proceeded to Egypt.2March 1917 : landed Marseilles and proceeded to the Western Front. Part of 14th Brigade in 5th Division.17 August 1914 ; landed at Le Havre.30 December 1915 : moved with the Brigade to 32nd Division.6 February 1918 : transferred to 96th Brigade in same Division. 52nd (Graduated) BattalionUp to 27 October 1917, this was known as 229th Graduated Battalion and had no regimental affiliation. A shell had come over and hit this man. dailyinfo[26]=' Deck Hand Herbert WRIGHT H.M. Trawler "Charles Astie." 61887. Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Sign up for a new account in our community. so-called 'Manchester Pals' battalions: the 16th (Service) Battalion; Manchester Regiment to the 23rd (Service) Battalion; Manchester Regiment (inclusive) Records are arranged by battalion, company, then platoon, it includes photographs of each platoon. Australian Infantry, A.I.F. Pte. RFA diaries are often much more detailed than those of infantry battalions and there's a reasonable chance that he is mentioned by name. Battalion The Yorkshire Regiment, also known as The Green Howards. Records of 16th (1st City) Battalion, Manchester Regiment from other sources. On arrival joined 7th Brigade in 25th Division. James was wounded in the back and legs during the Montauban assault, quite possibly from enfilade fire from the machine gun post at The Warren. Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire Regiment. James was Arthur Bells cousin. The remarkable story of the 1914 Christmas truce have been lost to popularisation of the media's obsession with football - particularly the controversial Sainsbury's advert and factually incorrect dreams. We use cookies and similar technologies to optimise your experience when using this site and to help tailor our digital advertising on third party sites. var fontstart = '' It may be worth your while reposting your enquiry within the Soldiers section of the Forum or if the moderators could do it for you, there will be a better chance of a Manchester expert seeing it. Records of 16th (1st City) Battalion, Manchester Regiment from other sources. Regrettably SaD cases seem to be highlighted in every other media opportunity e.g. dailyinfo[10]=' 94575 Sapper Charles BELCHER 172nd Tunnelling Coy. But c. Royal Garrison Artillery who died 11/07/1917 MENDINGHEM MILITARY CEMETERY Belgium ' Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire Regiment. dailyinfo[1]=' 4484 Rifleman David ROGERS 4th Bn. Shot down next to me Commemorating the battle of Manchester Hill - 21 March 1918 You should get copies of the medal rolls as these MAY note the battalions he served with. Bert served in the 16th Manchesters in Maricourt and was wounded in the First Day of the Somme at Montauban. The book is divided into four parts, one for each battalion, each with its own contents list, and the pattern for each battalion is the same: formation and training, roll of officers embarking for France, and description of the fighting. This piece reflects on the direction of the medias presentation. 130.00 Approx $165.61, 151.16, 130 . 20th (Service) Battalion (5th City)Formed in Manchester on 8 November 1914 by the Lord Mayor and City. PHILIP AND JAMES) CHURCHYARD United Kingdom ' I watched the Private Peaceful play with my family and found the presentation of war horrors to be well balanced with the plot associated with a Shot at Dawn (SaD) case. Not wishing to be getting ahead of the media, heres thoughts on four deaths on the Somme recounted by Scout Sergeant Bert Payne in his interviews with Lyn E Smith. Absorbed 13th Bn, newly arrived from Salonika, on 13 August 1918. Moved to near Bury.25 September 1914 : landed at Alexandria in Egypt.10 May 1915 : landed on Gallipoli.26 May 1915 : formation became 126th Brigade, 42nd (East Lancashire) Division.Late December 1915 : evacuated from Gallipoli, landed on Mudros and proceeded to Egypt.2 March 1917 : landed Marseilles and proceeded to the Western Front.19 February 1918 : transferred to 198th Brigade in 66th (2nd East Lancashire) Division, absorbing 2/9th Bn and renamed as 9th Battalion.April 1918 : reduced to cadre.22 July 1918 : transferred to 199th Brigade in same Division. Battle of Manchester Hill - 16th Battalion Manchester Regiment At 3.15 p.m. the Battalion march to SAVY DUGOUTS to relieve the 17th Bn.Manchester Regiment, in Support. 1st BattalionAugust 1914 : in Dalhousie with detachments at Amritsar and Jullundur, India. dailyinfo[25]=' Nursing Sister Cicely Mary Leigh POPE Voluntary Aid Detachment who died 25/06/1921 CHELA KULA MILITARY CEMETERY, NIS Serbia ' Life story: Rowland Otto Ashton | Lives of the First World War Courtesy manchesters.org. dailyinfo[3]=' Gunner James Trevor LIVESEY H.M.S. The Commonwealth War Graves Commission has 641 recorded WW1 deaths for the 16th (Service) Battalion, (1st City), Manchester Regiment. dailyinfo[17]=' 36836 Private Joshua HOGG 2nd/6th Bn. Royal Sussex Regiment who died 30/06/1916 LOOS MEMORIAL France ' 3/8th, 3/9th and 3/10th BattalionsFormed at home bases in March 1915. ". Our One can imagine the anguish of his friends and brother when Horaces body remained above their trench, but unavailable until nightfall. "Defence." 16th Battalion. Louis ALban - Soldiers and their units - Great War Forum dailyinfo[14]=' Nurse Alice May STALLARD 1st Southern General Hospital Voluntary Aid Detachmentwho died 14/07/1918 HALLOW (SS. Royal Warwickshire Regiment who died 19/07/1916 AUBERS RIDGE BRITISH CEMETERY, AUBERS France ' Private Excellent & usful information. Private Formed in Manchester on 28th August 1914 by the Mayor & City. The regiment was attached to 2nd Brigade, 2nd Division, Cavalry Corps, Department of the Ohio, to May 1864. Horace was buried alongside Lance Corporal Charles Johnston-who had been killed in the same bombardment- in Maricourt Military Cemetery. St Peter's Church - warmemorials - Tapatalk http://www.explorers.mlfhs.org.uk/index.htm, British Army 2/8th (Ardwick) BattalionFormed at Ardwick in August 1914 as a second line unit. Prior to hostilities, James had been a stock brokers clerk for Mr A. W. Walton and lived at 39 Mawson Street, Chorlton on Medlock, just south of Manchester city centre. This was a very quiet time for the Pals. The first is the romanticisation or of war. Part of East Lancashire Brigade, East Lancashire Division. The officers of 90th Brigade Merchiston, St Bees, Oxford, Cheshire and beyond. Marched to Menden and billeted.19 June 1919: Moved to Niederpleis.1 July 1919: Moved to Birlinghoven.5 August 1919: Took over Hennef sector of the front.30 September 1919: Reorganised on a 3-Company basis.24 October 1919: Battalion disbanded and all personnel transferred to 51st and 52nd Battalions. Private if (month<10) month="0"+month 781 Location:Australia Posted 1 July , 2008 Could someone tell me when and where Louis Alban Pte 6202 of the 16th Manchester regiment was born. Jerrymurland17 February , 2013 in Soldiers and their units. var daym=mydate.getDate() dailyinfo[16]=' S/7549 Private John MONTGOMERY 2nd Bn. 8th manchest Battalion. dailyinfo[7]=' 24272 Private Albert ANGEL 16th Bn. The first number on my database for the 16th Manchester is 6203 Edward Alcroft (originally 713) who joined the 16th Manchesters on 24th August 1914. Moved to Southport and went on in early 1916 to Witley.8 April 1916 : became 5th, 6th and 7th Reserve Bns.1 September 1916 : 6th and 7th Bns absorbed into 5th Bn. 18th (Service) Battalion (3rd City)Formed in Manchester on 28 August 1914 by the Lord Mayor and City. 401042 11 February 1920 Discharged as no longer fit for further service. dailyinfo[1]=' 4484 Rifleman David ROGERS 4th Bn. Thomas' number indicates he was one of the early 16th Bttn. Private Wallace and Bell carried rations for my platoon.. dailyinfo[21]=' Lieutenant Colonel Henry Monteith HANNAN Territorial Decoration 8th Bn. Wilfrith Elstob VC - Other Great War Chat - The Great War (1914-1918) Forum It then mentions that "B" Coy goes to billets at Savy Dugouts with the remainder of the battalion going to Vaux. Thanks for commenting Campbell21. 1/9th BattalionAugust 1914 : in Ashton-under-Lyne. Movements same as 25th Bn.1 September 1916 : converted into 70th Training Reserve Battalion of 16th Reserve Brigade at Altcar. 36276 and a Horse left in the German Wire. Leicestershire Regimentwho died 15/07/1919 LEICESTER (WELFORD ROAD) CEMETERY United Kingdom ' The 69th had originally been denoted as the 25th (Reserve) Battalion. Finally there is a section containing congratulatory messages to formations in which the battalions served. else { document.write(fontstart+"No major events today"+fontend); } 19224 Throughout the day Lieutenant-Colonel Elstob, although twice wounded, showed the most fearless disregard of his own safety, and by his encouragement and noble example inspired his command to the fullest degree. Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) who died 21/06/1915 TWELVE TREE COPSE CEMETERY Turkey (including Gallipoli) ' Does anyone have the number of officers and men of the battalion that were on roll when the 16th went into Manchester Hill Redoubt on 18th March? These four deaths are not comfortable to address and any interpretation relate to the complete picture and context of hostilities. Manchester Regiment One section deals with the transit of rations from the cookhouse to the front. I'll check my files and see if I have any relevent Brigade diary that could help. Royal Garrison Artillery who died 11/07/1917 MENDINGHEM MILITARY CEMETERY Belgium ' Out of these cookies, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. 16th Battalion. Went on to Aldershot in May.September 1915 : landed in France.October 1915 : moved to Salonika.22 June 1918 : left the Division and returned to France, arriving at Abancourt on 11 July 1918.21 July 1918 : attached to 66th (2nd East Lancashire) Division.30 July 1918 : absorbed the 17th Bn.13 August 1918 : absorbed into the 1/9th Bn. (Note though, that in between the two sequences above, SDGW notes that number 8359 was issued to Herbert Moores). Part of the 8th (Jullundur) Brigade in 3rd (Lahore) Division. British Army 1 September 1916 posted to 69th Training Battalion. Four French Deaths; Irish Division 7th. 29th BattalionFormed at Walsham on 1 June 1918 but absorbed into 16th Bn at Aldershot in same month. Remembered Today: (d.9th July 1916), Stearns Walter Ryder. Manchester Pals - Wikipedia Moved on to Larkhill in September 1915. You signify acceptance of our use of cookies when you click the Accept button or by your continued use of the site. This from SDGW: After 8993 Worrall, the alphabetical sequence falls down. Manchester Regiment dailyinfo[25]=' Nursing Sister Cicely Mary Leigh POPE Voluntary Aid Detachment who died 25/06/1921 CHELA KULA MILITARY CEMETERY, NIS Serbia ' to help with the costs of keeping the site running. var fontstart = '' Later, when ammunition was required, he made several journeys under severe fire in order to replenish the supply. I have inherited Grandad's 3 WW1 Medals plus the 2 WW2 Medals he was awarded as a staff sergeant in the Australian Army. It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website. dailyinfo[27]=' Assistant Steward Harry Robert COCKS H.M.H.S. Five Historic Archives Kajaki is shocking, heart-warming but painful to watch, and should be compulsory viewing for GCSE students particularly those considering a career in politics. Record same as 2/5th Bn. WW1 MEDALS & DEATH PLAQUES - Tommy's Militaria XIII Platoon, 16th Manchesters Roll of Honour. Want to find out more about your relative's service? Courtesy manchesters.org. 16th Battalion. 16th Battalion (1st City) Manchester Regiment 19th Battalion (4th City) Manchester Regiment: 19th Battalion, King's (Liverpool)Regiment: 17th Battalion (2nd City) Manchester Regiment 2nd Battalion, Princess of Wales' Own Yorkshire Regt: 20th Battalion, King's (Liverpool) Regiment: 18th Battalion (3rd City) Manchester Regiment 16th (1st City) Battalion, Manchester Regiment. Private dailyinfo[15]=' 46357 Private James George Frank HOLYOAK 6th Bn. 19 January 1919 Sent to Italy (21st Battalion) Home address: 24 Ellor Street, Salford. M Manchester Regiment (2 C, 43 P) W Military units and formations in Wigan (7 P) Pages in category "Military units and formations in Manchester" The following 137 pages are in this category, out of 137 total. The same as his cousin Arthur Bell, James received a Silver War Badge and the three service medals, Pip, Squeak and Wilfred About The Steel Helmet. As part of 90th Brigade, the 16th Battalion followed similar exploits and actions in the Somme notably alongside Arthur Bell in Montauban Alley on the 1st-2nd July 1916. if (dailyinfo[daym] != "") { document.write(fontstart+dailyinfo[daym]+fontend) } dailyinfo[5]=' Probationary Flight Officer Harold John FLYNN Royal Naval Air Service who died 05/07/1917 RAMSGATE CEMETERY United Kingdom ' 3rd Manchester Rifles - Wikipedia You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. The 18 th Battalion succeeded in taking Stirling Castle and the 16 th Battalion's objective was carried. dailyinfo[20]=' 4249 Private Albert WILLIAMSON 54th Bn. Kerry MID.. Arnold John St Legier. Royal Navy who died 31/05/1916 CHATHAM NAVAL MEMORIAL United Kingdom ' 2/5th BattalionFormed at Wigan in August 1914 as a second line unit. 2nd (Home Service) Garrison BattalionFormed at Knowsley Park in February 1916. 2/9th BattalionFormed at Ashton-under-Lyne in August 1914 as a second line unit. var mydate=new Date() The Manchester Regiment (16th and 17th Service Battalion 1st and 2nd Manchester City Pals) The officers and men that made the ultimate sacrifice during the The Battle of the Somme, 1st to the 9th July 1916. Moved in January 1916 to Brocton on Cannock Chase.1 September 1916 : converted into 14th Training Reserve Battalion of 3rd Reserve Brigade at Brocton. These cookies do not store any personal information. Record same as 16th Bn.21 December 1915 : transferred to 21st Brigade in same Division.6 February 1918 : disbanded in France. Despite a heroic defence led by Col. Elstob (who was awarded a posthumous VC) the action was unsuccessful with many of the battalion dead or wounded by 4pm on that day. 27100 I havnt seen anything indicating the bandsmen were left out (but then I've not been looking for it - my recent research has been about the 17th Bn). It's easy! 16th Regiment, Kentucky Infantry (Union) FamilySearch Record same as 2/5th Bn. Can't ask Dad as he passed away in 1999. Escaped Prisoner of War, Private 15167 Frank Percival 24th Bn Manchester Regiment, Commemorating three East Finchley soldiers from a single family, 17 new Great War Commemorations at St Josephs, Moston. The relief was . SDGW gives the first casualty in the 6*** range as 6201 CSM James Hamilton Adamson who was KiA on 9th July 1916. You could call up the volumes (one for his 1915 Star, the other for his British War and Victory Medals) as they may give further detail. As the war progressed and casualties grew, large numbers of men were often transferred from one battalion to another and allocated numbers within blocks which did not fit the sequential patterning seen to date. Private 16th (Service) Battalion (1st City) Formed in Manchester on 28 August 1914 by the Lord Mayor and City. Manchester Regiment. Leicestershire Regimentwho died 15/07/1919 LEICESTER (WELFORD ROAD) CEMETERY United Kingdom ' 23rd (Service) Battalion (8th City)Formed in Manchester on 21 November 1914 by the Lord Mayor and City as a Bantam Battalion. When the new numbers in the 6*** range were used, men were grouped alphabetically by surname and then issued numbers. Canadian Infantry who died 13/07/1918 WAILLY ORCHARD CEMETERY France ' Manchester Regiment Battalions, Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers 1919-1920 96th. However I feel this 2014 moral question now eclipses the principal issues of hostilities. 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